Hey, yo. Here’s a comment Jen sent over:
Hi Curtis,
I need some help with percent and ratio word problems. Unfortunately your previous explanations regarding word problems have been too complicated. Perhaps you could give more information on the basics, the formulas? I know I am not completely understanding these formulas. My knowledge in math is only the basic concepts, and I do not understand algebra yet.
While percents seem simple enough; I become lost when I try to solve word problems with them. I have been using the triangle method to work with percent problems. [The method shown in the GED book.]
1- Multiply when the problem gives you the whole and the percent.
2- Divide when the problem gives you the part and the percent.
3- Divide when the problem gives you the whole and the part.
However, I am still finding word problems with percents and ratios very confusing, so I know I am definitely not understanding the formula. Ratios especially – the whole idea of cross multiplying sounds good, but when I do this I become lost as I attempt to finish the problem. I hope you can help me begin to make sense of these areas.
Thanks, Jen
Hey, Jen. The problem with percent and ratio word problems is, you gotta really think through what information they give you an’ how it relates to the problem they want you to solve. What are you actually tryin’ to find? How can you get it? It’s knowing when to use the different rules and formula’s that’s confusin’.
Like the triangle rules you said you use:
1- Multiply when the problem gives you the whole and the percent.
2- Divide when the problem gives you the part and the percent.
3- Divide when the problem gives you the whole and the part.
To use ‘em, you gotta know what ‘percent’ ‘whole’ an’ ‘part’ they mean. Here’s an example.
40 of the students in a class of 200 got B’s on their test. 10 got A’s, 2 got F’s, and 20 got D’s. What percentage of students got C’s?
What’s the whole, part, and percent?
The whole is the whole class: 200.
The percent is the percent of students got C’s. That’s what you’re looking for.
The “part” is the number of students that got C’s.
See, a “percent” is the fraction (or ratio) of the part to the whole. That’s all… it’s just a fraction, with the top divided by the bottom. So, 1/2 = 50% (1 divided by 2 = .5 = 50%) and 3/4 = 75% (3 divided by 4 = .75 = 75%). The part divided by the whole = the percent.
Part ÷ Whole = Percent
So, in a sense, a percent is the same thing as a fraction. 1/8 of a pizza is the part (1 piece) over the whole (8 pieces make a whole pizza). That same slice of pizza is 12.5% of the pizza, because 1 divided by 8 = .125 (12.5%).
All three of the “rules” come from the equation: Part ÷ Whole = Percent, just written in different ways.
1- Multiply when the problem gives you the whole and the percent. (Part = Percent x Whole)
2- Divide when the problem gives you the part and the percent. (Whole = Part ÷ Percent)
3- Divide when the problem gives you the whole and the part. (Percent = Part ÷ Whole)
All these formulas say the same thing… it’s just moving the three pieces of the formula around. So really, all you need to do is figure out what the question’s askin’, and find the other two numbers to plug into the formula.
Back to the word problem. It’s asking for a percent:
Percent = Part ÷ Whole
The “whole” is the whole class, 200 students.
Percent = Part ÷ 200
The “part” is trickier, cuz the word problem is really in 2 parts. The “part” is the number of students that got c’s. So, you need to subtract all the other students who got other grades from 200.
200 – 40 – 10 – 2 – 20 = 128
That’s the number to plug into the formula:
Percent = 128 (number of students with C’s) ÷ 200 (number of students in the class)
128 ÷ 200 = .64 = 64%
64% of students got C’s.
Okay, let’s try a ratio. A ratio is also sort of like a fraction, but it’s not necessarily the ratio of “part” to “whole.” A fraction is a ratio of “part” to “whole,” but a ratio is a ratio of anything to anything. In a speed problem, it can be a ratio of “miles” to “hours.” It’s anything that has a regular relationship. Okay, let’s try a ratio problem, and we’ll try an’ walk thru cross-multiplying.
A man works 8 hours per day in a factory, and he makes $20 per hour. In a 5-day workweek, how much does the man make?
Now, you might figure this out without even using a ratio. But it is a ratio… any time you see “per,” you can use a ratio. You need to figure out what’s equivalent to what. We’ve got some ratios:
8 hours : 1 day
That’s the same as 8 hours per day.
20 dollars : 1 hour
That’s the same as $20 per hour.
Now, if I want to find out how many dollars per day, I need to figure out the ratio of dollars to 8 hours. A ratio like this (something per something else) gives two things that are equivalent. 8 hours = 1 day, so a ratio of dollars per 8 hours will give us dollars per day.
20 dollars : 1 hour
x dollars : 8 hours
Now, I’ve got two ratios, with the same units, and they’ll be equal to each other. That gives me an equation:
20/1 = x/8
Now’s the time to cross multiply. Basically, cross multiplication is some simple algebra. It’s just a shorthand way to remember how to solve this kind of problem. To move numbers from one side of the equation to the other, you do the opposite operation. If one side is divided by a number (like 1), you can move that number to the other side of the equation by multiplying both sides by 1.
(20/1) x 1 = (x/8) x 1
The two ones on the left cancel each other out, and on the right you end up with x times 1 (or just x) over 8:
20 = x/8
Now, do the same thing with the 8:
20 x 8 = (x/8) x 8
The two 8′s cancel each other out, and 20 x 8 = 160:
160 = x
He makes $160 in a day.
160 dollars : 1 day
Now, how much does he make in 5 days?
y dollars : 5 days
It’s the exact same sort of problem. You can make an equation:
160/1 = y/5
Using the shorthand version of the math we did before, this is the same as 160 x 5 = 1 x y (cross multiplying)
160 x 5 = 1 x y
800 = y
That’s the answer: he makes $800 in a five-day workweek.
So, what you need to find out from a ratio problem is what ratio equals what other ratio. Then, you can cross-multiply to solve.
Hope this helps! If a practice problem is giving you problems, send it to me an’ I’ll walk thru it.
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Dear Curtis, Is this page the basis for all algebra problems? My son has always struggled in Algebra and if he studies these techniques outlined on this page will he be able to conquer any math problem in algebra? I would like to get his GED at this point as he is not focusing in his charter school at this time; too many distractions! I just need him to have the base for solving all algebra problems so that he can apply to our community college in the fall. I am 54 years old, so have been no help whatsoever in helping him, and that makes me sad. But any help you can give me so that I will feel good knowing he has algebra down good to go on to college would be greatly appreciated. Signed, Doris Moreno, Midland, Texas
Doris,
Hey there! Algebra’s got a lot of stuff in it, and it takes a while to learn. You can look at a lot of the algebra articles here: http://www.passged.com/student_blogs/curtis/category/algebra/. Here’s the absolute, need-to-know’s:
1) Gotta understand the idea of a variable. A variable is a letter or symbol that stands for something unknown or something that can change. A lot of the time, you’ll see “x” used as a variable: x + 5 = 10 … why do you use a variable? Cuz you want to figure something out, and to put the “something you don’t know” into a math equation you need some sort of symbol for it. That’s where the x comes in. You’ll need to be able to understand what 2x means (2 times x) and mutliply, add, and subtract with variables to move them around.
2) Gotta understand how to move numbers around in an equation. In an equation, you can add the same number to both sides, subtract the same number from both sides, multiply both sides by the same number, or divide both sides by the same number (as long as it’s not zero). Why do you want to do that? So you can move all the numbers to one side, and the variable to the other, and figure out what the variable equals. So, for x + 5 = 10, you can subtract 5 from each side. Then, x = 5. Easy.
3) Gotta be able to see what an equation means in real life. So, take a word problem and make an equation out of it.
4) Understand inequalities, like 4 < 2x or x +5 > 10.
5) Gotta know how to deal with negative numbers and fractions. Why? These are the main things that’ll mess you up in moving around numbers. Better you understand them, the better you’ll do.
6) Helps to know about exponents, like x2. You won’t get into real high exponents, jus’ understand what “squared” means (something times itself) and what a square root means.
7) Helps to know about graphing a line… like what’s a slope? How do you get a line on a graph from an equation?
The hardest part is quadratic equations (you can see my article ’bout them). But there’s not gonna be a lot about them on the GED, so no big sweat.
Dat’s the basics. I know it’s a lot, an’ I can’t promise my website covers it all. But your son can always write in to me with special problems if he’s havin’ trouble with something. It’s hard to study on your own, so I totally recommend the GED Academy study program at http://www.passGED.com. It’s got a real complete math course, and if he has a problem he can call up an instructor for help.
Curtis
how do you use the casio fx 260 calculator is their a site that teaches you how
Yeah, qweenbe. Here’s some good links on how to use the calculator:
http://www.ilc.org/cfmx/GED/GED_sample_m2.cfm?Menu_ID_Sel=35200&Lang_Sel=1
http://www.ket.org/GED2002/Mathcalc/Mathcalc1.htm
Here’s a link to buy a calculator on Amazon.com to practice with… totally worth it: Buy a Casio fx-260 Solar Scientific Calculator
The manufacturing company allows for a defect rate of .3% on its production line . The defect average for last week was 2 items out of 400 .
question;what is the difference between the allowed defect rate and the defect average for last week ?
Yo, good problem! It’s got a couple steps. First, what’s the defect rate for last week? You gotta turn “2″ and “400″ into a percentage. To get a percent, you usually gotta divide. And unless you expectin’ a percent bigger than 100%, you gotta divide the larger number into the smaller number. So, you got 2 ÷ 400. Dat give you .005 … and move the decimal two places to make a percent … .5%
Now, the question asks you a difference. An’ difference means subtracting. What’s the difference between the allowed defect rate (.3%) and last week’s defect rate (.5%)? If only one was a percent, you’d have to change it to a decimal, but you don’t gotta worry about that, since both numbers are percents. Pretty easy: .5% − .3% = .2% … Remember, when you’re subtractin’ decimals, line up the decimal points. Here, they’rre in the same place, so it’s all good. Answer’s .2%, an’ that factory needs some serious improvement.
I guess the last problem that you have solved is wrong:-
The man makes $20 “per hr” in a day. So why you have multiplied 160*5… you should have multiplied 160*40 hrs which is equal to 5 day workweek. So, the total amount earned should be $ 6400 in 5 days!!!!!
Ok got it now !!!!!! Thanks !!!!!
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